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Michigan healthcare freedom community forum
Victor Davis Hanson describes California's legendary Medicaid abuse at minute 53.
Predictably, liberal California physicians oppose reform. They swing back especially hard, calling 'Code Red' for Medicaid, and West Coast Kaiser Family Foundation/Politifact provides a rather weak fact check on OMB improper payment numbers.
What Are ‘Improper’ Medicaid Payments, and Are They as High as a Trump Official Said?
By Louis Jacobson | June 11, 2025
“One out of every $5 or $6 in Medicaid [payments] is improper.”
Russell Vought stated on June 1, 2025, in an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union.”
Responding to charges that President Donald Trump’s tax and spending bill would cut Medicaid coverage for millions of Americans, Trump administration officials misleadingly counter that it targets only waste, fraud, and abuse.
During an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union,” Russell Vought, the administration’s director of the Office of Management and Budget, framed Medicaid as sagging under the weight of improper payments.
An “improper” payment refers to payments made erroneously to beneficiaries and their providers or without sufficient documentation.
Pressed June 1 by CNN host Dana Bash about concerns that low-income Americans would suffer if the bill becomes law, Vought called such arguments “totally ridiculous.”
“This bill will preserve and protect the programs, the social safety net, but it will make it much more commonsense,” Vought said. “Look, one out of every $5 or $6 in Medicaid [payments] is improper.”
That would mean Medicaid’s improper payment rate is 16% to 20%.
In a 2024 report covering the years 2022, 2023, and 2024, Medicaid’s parent agency — the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services — said the rate was about 5.1%.
One conservative group, the Paragon Health Institute, said the agency has been using an incomplete calculation method and that the percentage could be as high as 25%. Other experts told PolitiFact that the actual numbers could be higher than what the federal government reports, although not as high as Paragon’s estimate.
The White House did not respond to an inquiry for this article.
How High Is the Medicaid Improper Payment Rate?
Medicaid and its closely related Children’s Health Insurance program provides health care and long-term care to roughly 83 million lower-income beneficiaries, accounting for about one-fifth of health care spending overall. It is funded through a mix of federal and state money and is administered by states under federal government rules.
Every year, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services publishes official numbers for the share of improper Medicaid payments, and in other federal health insurance programs the agency oversees.
In a 2024 review of payments made in 2022, 2023, and 2024, the agency found that 5.09% of Medicaid payments totaling $31.10 billion were improper.
The 5.09% rate represented a decrease from the 8.58% rate cited in its 2023 report, which was also based on a three-year time span. The 2024 figure represented the third consecutive annual decline.
Are These Numbers Complete?
In March 2025, Brian Blase, a conservative health policy analyst and president of Paragon Health, a health policy think tank, co-authored a report that said the official CMS improper payment rate figures were unrealistically low for eight of the past 10 years, because in some years the agency failed to undergo widespread auditing of its beneficiaries’ Medicaid eligibility.
From 2017 to 2019, during Trump’s first term, Blase served as Trump’s special assistant for economic policy. Before that, he served as a health policy analyst for the Senate Republican Policy Committee and has worked for the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank.
The report said if the agency’s analysis had looked at eligibility checks every year, more ineligible beneficiaries and payments on their behalf would have been discovered. The report said this might have increased the improper payment rate as high as 25%, based on the rates found in 2020 and 2021, when a high number of eligibility checks were included in the agency’s methodology.
However, it’s hard to confirm whether lack of eligibility auditing caused higher improper payment rates in 2020 and 2021, said Jennifer Wagner, director of Medicaid eligibility and enrollment at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a liberal think tank.
Wagner said Medicaid enrollment procedures have fluctuated, which could help explain the higher rates in some years rather than others. Using two years of data to generalize about trends across a decade, she said, is not necessarily valid.
Robert Westbrooks, the federal Pandemic Response Accountability Committee executive director who worked in government oversight roles during Democratic and Republican administrations, told PolitiFact it’s plausible that the officially reported improper payment rates for Medicaid could be too low.
However, Westbrooks said pinpointing how much higher the rate is in reality is a speculative process. “I don’t believe anyone can credibly quantify the [difference],” he said.
What Is an Improper Payment?
Health care experts emphasized that improper payments are not the same thing as waste, fraud, or abuse.
CMS maintains official definitions for these terms:
Fraud: “When someone knowingly deceives, conceals, or misrepresents to obtain money or property from any health care benefit program.”
Waste: “Overusing services or other practices that directly or indirectly result in unnecessary costs to any health care benefit program. Examples of waste are conducting excessive office visits, prescribing more medications than necessary, and ordering excessive laboratory tests.”
Abuse: “When health care providers or suppliers perform actions that directly or indirectly result in unnecessary costs to any health care benefit program,” which can include overbilling or misusing billing codes.
By contrast, an improper payment “includes any payment to an ineligible recipient, any payment for an ineligible good or service, any duplicate payment, any payment for a good or service not received, and any payment that does not account for credit for applicable discounts,” KFF, a health information nonprofit that includes KFF Health News, wrote this year.“Although all fraudulent payments are improper, not all improper payments are fraudulent,” said Jessica Tillipman, associate dean for government procurement law at George Washington University’s law school. “Most providers identify the improper payments and return them knowing how aggressively enforced” the legal provisions are. “When they don’t, they open the door to significant liability.”
CMS said about 79% of improper payments happened when there was insufficient documentation.
This typically involved cases in which a state or provider missed an administrative step, and it did not necessarily indicate fraud or abuse, the agency said. Instead, it could be an accidental oversight or mistake.
In other words, it was rare for ordinary beneficiaries to be scamming the government. “The vast majority of fraud in Medicaid is committed by providers or other actors, not enrollees,” Wagner said.
Our Ruling
Vought said that “one out of every $5 or $6 in Medicaid [payments] is improper.”
The official improper payment rate calculated by the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services in 2024 was about 5%, smaller than the 16% to 20% rate Vought described.
A health policy analyst and former Trump adviser said methodological shortcomings in the agency’s analysis could mean the rate is as high as 25%. Although it’s possible the rate is higher than the 5% the government reported, how much higher is speculative.
The statement contains an element of truth but ignores critical facts, namely the federal government’s own data. We rate the statement Mostly False.
My rating of the fact-checker: the official waste/fraud/abuse definitions are useful. However, limiting analysis to inside-the-box government numbers opens the conclusion to potential bias. The "ruling" itself contains weasel words: could mean, as high as, possible, speculative.
Their conclusion, with the evidence they use, might better be stated "unproven."
A little inside baseball: "improper payments" are the bane of real-world healthcare, because they often mean more documentation is needed. Doctors, nurses, et al, either dot their i's and cross their t's with complete government-mandated paperwork, or they don't get paid. It has nothing to do with real care being done, unless you believe more words = more care.
Ultimately, it appears the Trump Administration is restricting Medicaid to truly needy Americans, while KFF and Politifact are attempting to defend Medicaid coverage for illegal aliens and the able-bodied - without saying so.
Naturally, Michigan is pulling out all the stops to grow popular support for Medicaid.
Thursday's MDHHS press release quotes the medical director as well as the third Michigan Dingell to foist socialized healthcare on us from Congress.
MDHHS commemorates 60th anniversary of Medicaid
Program has provided health care coverage to millions of Michigan families
LANSING, Mich. – For 60 years, millions of Michigan residents have been able to access medical care and lead healthier lives thanks to the creation of Medicaid. Signed into law 60 years ago by President Lyndon B. Johnson on July 30, 1965, the program provides health insurance to low-income seniors, children and people with disabilities.
“Medicaid has protected the health and well-being of tens of millions of Michigan residents and improved the state’s economic security,” said Elizabeth Hertel, Michigan Department of Health and Human Services director. “It is the backbone of our health care system and has been proven to improve health outcomes, reduce poverty, and support working families, children, older adults and people with disabilities.”
MDHHS is responsible for overseeing the Medicaid program in Michigan in partnership with the federal government, Today, more than 2.6 million Michigan residents are enrolled in Medicaid, including nearly one million children, 168,000 seniors and 300,000 people living with disabilities who receive the critical care they need to live independently.
Sixty years ago, President Johnson traveled to Independence, Missouri, the hometown of President Harry S. Truman, to sign this landmark legislation. Truman had championed the concept for two decades. Also present that day was Michigan Congressman John Dingell, Jr., who lead on the legislation and whose father, John Dingell, Sr., had worked tirelessly to see that America’s elderly and most disadvantaged had access to better health care.
“I am proud of the role that my husband Congressman John Dingell played when it was passed,” said Congresswoman Debbie Dingell in a video message. “He was one of the leaders of the bill and he was key to expanding it when we passed the Children’s Health Insurance Program, known as CHIPS, and the Affordable Care Act. On this anniversary, I want to recommit myself to continuing the fight to protect and strengthen Medicaid for the millions of people who rely on it. To make sure if you are sick you have what you need to take care of yourself, the medicine you need, and for all of us to be the voice for some who do not have one.”
In his July 30, 1965, remarks, Johnson quoted Truman who 20 years prior had said, “Millions of our citizens do not have the full measure of opportunity to achieve and to enjoy good health. Millions do not now have protection or security against the economic effects of sickness. And the time has now arrived for action to help attain that opportunity and to help them get that protection.”
After noting that it took a long time to achieve Johnson said, “The benefits under the law are as varied and broad as the marvelous modern medicine itself.”
This anniversary comes at a challenging time when federal cuts and new requirements for Medicaid put the health coverage for hundreds of thousands of our state’s residents at risk.
“For 60 years, Medicaid has been a lifeline for millions of Michiganders, providing access to health care for children, seniors, people with disabilities and working families,” said Monique Stanton, president and CEO of the Michigan League for Public Policy. “As we mark this milestone, we should be building on Medicaid’s success, not gutting it. Recent federal cuts will turn back the clock on decades of progress, jeopardizing care for over 2.6 million Michiganders and threatening the stability of our health care system. Now more than ever, we must protect and strengthen Medicaid for the next generation.”
“Looking to the future, we are exploring ways to keep Michigan’s Medicaid program strong despite federal cuts,” said Meghan Groen, MDHHS chief deputy director for Health Services and Medicaid director. “We will work with the legislature, State Budget Office and Governor Whitmer on how we move forward in Michigan to help families get the heath care they need.”
For more information about Medicaid, visit Michigan.gov/Medicaid.
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Medicaid by the numbers in Michigan
The past:
- Michigan Medicaid launched in 1966 and quickly enrolled about 600,000 residents.
- Expanded to cover pregnant women and children in the 1980s.
- Covered over 1.8 million Michigan residents by 2010.
- Healthy Michigan Plan added about 700,000 adults starting in 2014.
- Cut the uninsured rate among children to under 3% by 2020.
The present:
- Reduces uncompensated care and sustains Michigan’s health care workforce.
- Serves as a vital lifeline for rural and vulnerable communities.
- Coverage for more than 2.6 million Michigan residents.
- 1 million children.
- 300,000 people with disabilities.
- 168,000 seniors.
- Coverage for 1 in 4 Michiganders.
- Coverage for 3 in 5 nursing home residents.
- Covers 40-45% of state’s births.
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